I'd like to raise a second issue. You'll note that there is unanimous consent to add the testimony of a witness who was mentioned in the original motion. It's John Ostrander, the former technical lead for the benefits delivery modernization program.
I'll explain why I think this is important. He was one of the main leaders of the modernization program. From 2017 to 2020, when the government chose the Cúram software, he was vice-president and general manager at IBM. He was vice-president at IBM when problems arose in Ontario in 2015. In the Auditor General's report, he is mentioned, in particular, in paragraph 1.66.
I think he's one of the people we'd like to ask many questions of.
