You answered my question. They don't have a number, and they don't have the goals set yet. I think that's problematic.
My next question is with regard to Mrs. Volk's opening remarks that the program is going to be the responsibility of HICC, but the CMHC is going to be managing it. I guess I'm a little confused. Let's say we had goals set. Later, when you go back to look at the goals, who is going to be the one responsible if they are not met? It sounds like you both can pass the buck to the other side. Who is going to be responsible for saying, “We accomplished these things”, when one is operational and the other one is managing?