I think Canadians win.
We have a job to do. It has to be a professional relationship, and he has a job to do and I'm sure he takes it very seriously.
We have a job to do, and that's to hold them accountable for their responsibilities and mandate and adhering to it under the CSIS Act, ministerial direction, and obviously their own policy framework that they have to work with. We hold them accountable to always being consistent with all of those things.
From time to time we find that they haven't been, that they haven't measured up, and we're very direct about that. On a complaints process from time to time we've found in favour of the complainant and against CSIS. That doesn't mean to say that they're not a professional organization and that they aren't taking their responsibilities very seriously. It just means that they seem to have slipped up from time to time, and that's what we're there for, to ensure that Canadians are always as well served as they can possibly be.
I think it's a relationship of creative tension. They have their job; we have our job. From time to time we'll disagree, and that's what our reports will indicate.