Evidence of meeting #34 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was thursday.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Louise Hayes

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Could somebody take the cellphone from that guy? He hasn't even had a chance. I'd feel so much more comfortable. It's not that I distrust you, but I just don't want to be criticized for....

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay. We're going to suspend for a moment.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

I have spoken with Mr. Blaney, the proposer of the bill. He says it's just great, and from his perspective, he's pleased that Mr. Solberg's ministry is now in charge of it. To remove these 12 clauses meets with his approval.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Can I clarify the procedure if we do that?

Thank you very much, Mr. MacKenzie, for getting those assurances for us.

If we remove it and send it back to the House, it goes no further and it just sits there. Is that right? It's a private member's bill, so it just sits there. It's effectively returned to the House with no content, and it's a dead bill. There's no voting on it.

1:20 p.m.

The Clerk

I would have to triple-check that. I suppose it would go back on the order of precedence as per any other private member's bill. But I will double-check that one more time.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

At this point, I don't think it's our problem. We'll simply do what we're doing, and the House can then decide whatever happens there.

I'm going to take my authority as the chair and group clauses.

Do you have something else to add, Mr. MacKenzie?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Do you want it on the record that there's unanimous consent to do it?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Yes, we need to have it on the record. Thank you, Mr. MacKenzie.

Do you all agree to deal with this bill in this committee at this time?

1:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay. We have unanimous consent.

I will then group all 12 clauses together and we will have a vote on it. The proposal here is to remove these clauses from Bill C-286. This is pursuant to Standing Order 75(1).

We'll stand the title and remove clauses 2 to 12. The vote will now be on removing clauses 2 to 12.

1:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

It is unanimous.

Shall the title carry?

1:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Shall the bill as amended carry?

1:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Thank you.

Do you then agree that the bill be reprinted and reported to the House?

1:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Thank you very much.

Is there anything else?

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Are we meeting on Thursday?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

No, we have nothing on our agenda for Thursday. The next meeting is on Tuesday and it's with officials from the department. We'll then meet with the three groups on Thursday, if that's okay with all of you.

I don't think we have time to do anything else to make a meaningful meeting.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Can we at least check to see whether or not some of these people would be available on Thursday?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

I wouldn't want to have them come before the officials.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Why not?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Well, we usually have the officials from the department. The usual way we do things is to have officials from the department, and then we know something about the issues.