Evidence of meeting #14 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Yvon Dandurand  Associate Vice-President of Research and Graduate Studies, University College of the Fraser Valley, and Senior Associate, International Centre for Criminal Law Reform and Criminal Justice Policy, University College of the Fraser Valley

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

And I understand it would be included in that.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Thank you, Chair.

I certainly concur with what Mr. Cullen said. I don't think we can take a shotgun approach to individual issues. As serious as this is, I don't think having the minister here for one meeting would give the committee anything to deal with. The issue might be one the committee wants to look at at some point, but I think it involves more than having the minister here for one meeting.

And Mr. Cullen hit the nail on the head. We've agreed that we're going to do the taser study. We know the importance of what we want to do there, and perhaps we'll lay out where we want to go. But I don't think we can interject items such as this in the middle of where we are.

I'm just agreeing with Mr. Cullen--which I hate to do all the time. There will be a meeting on February 13, and that's when these issues should be addressed.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay.

Ms. Barnes, did you want to speak?

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

I'm just questioning that. I thought we had a future business meeting in the last meeting before we left so that we wouldn't have to have more future business meetings. I thought we'd done a fair bit of planning.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

But that was planning until February 13.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Okay.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

That business meeting was to plan for the weeks so that witnesses could be invited in advance and all that. We have nothing planned beyond February 13 at this point.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Thank you very much for clarifying that.

I suggest, then, that we deal with this in that meeting, although I don't think there is anything wrong with a member wanting to place a motion. I mean, it's the right of members to do that.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Oh, absolutely. And that member can also call for a vote at this point, unless there's further discussion.

Do you want to resolve this now?

Yes, Ms. Priddy.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

For one thing, the work plan went till February 13 only, so when this motion was submitted I didn't think we had another work-plan meeting--on my schedule. In the other committee I'd been on that was the way to bring forward new business that was of concern to people, so that's the process I followed for this. I assumed this would now be considered within the work-plan meeting.

But I would prefer to call for a vote on it, yes.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Ms. Priddy has asked for a vote at this point. Is there any further discussion?

Yes, Monsieur Ménard.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I would prefer that that be postponed until Wednesday.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

But the motion has already been made to call for the vote, so we have to have the vote. Sorry.

(Motion negatived)

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

We will still have a planning committee meeting next Wednesday, February 13.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Roy Cullen Liberal Etobicoke North, ON

Mr. Chairman, just for the record, defeating that motion doesn't necessarily mean we disagree with doing a study at some point.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

That's right; it's understood.

Just for those who may be new to this committee, when we have our planning session, we usually bring forth all of our requests. You don't have to have a motion in order to bring one forth.

This meeting stands adjourned.