Thank you, Mr. Norlock.
In a moment we're going to go to a fourth round, but with committee members' indulgence, I have a question or two myself.
Mr. Trueman has been sitting there like the Maytag repairman. I know that Finance Canada plays an integral role in the policy architecture around these sorts of issues.
Mr. Trueman, you heard the presentation from the Canada Revenue Agency. They talk about this $850 million decline and then they say this relates specifically to legitimate tobacco manufacturing production. I'm assuming that's because there might be unlicensed, illegitimate ones that existed before that period and still exist. They're not really commenting on contraband, but just through the moccasin telegraph I've heard numbers. I know Finance has some practices, but I've heard there might be forgone revenues of $1 billion to $3 billion a year as a result of contraband.
Do you have any estimates, sir?