You have to change the culture within these organizations. What the Iacobucci report indicated is that they didn't really care how the information was gotten and where it was gotten. All they cared about was that the information was useful to them somehow.
When it comes to the culture, one of the reasons Ahmad Abou-Elmaati was singled out for suspicion was that he had a civil liberties guide on what to do if CSIS calls, which we distributed as widely as we could.