You saw the facility in Saskatoon. There's one nearby here, in Brockville, which I'd recommend you have a look at as well. The Royal Ottawa Hospital runs it; it is a provincial institution. Correctional officers run the security side; therapeutic staff—Ottawa Hospital staff—run the inside. It works for people.
I know a person who, in a psychiatric condition, murdered his child and was placed in that facility by the courts. He has responded well to treatment, and I had contact with him while I was in the Canadian Mental Health Association. The other day he sent me an e-mail and said he had his release. He's been out in the community, back living with his family. He's now fully out of custody, as it were--out of supervision.
It has worked for this person. If we had put him in a regular facility and had him sit there for 20 years, what would we have had at the end of the day? He is back with his family; he is working; he is making a life for himself and his family. So I'd have a look at that kind of facility. You just saw one that is similar.
We need an intermediate facility. We need to connect whatever is put into existence in institutions—that variety we spoke about earlier, which Mr. Davies was dealing with—out to the community as well. The person who is in whatever facility it is or whatever kind of program it is has to go to some facility that connects to it out in the community. It can't just be a complete sort of chop, from one kind of program to another.
St. Leonard's has handled all sorts of complex persons over the years, and so has Operation Springboard. They are two good examples of organizations that know what they are doing, in my opinion, in terms of handling people in the community who are difficult and, some people would say, sometimes dangerous, I suppose.