Public Safety Committee on April 22nd, 2010

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

We are going to reconvene.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

Mr. Chair, where was the vote? With respect, there was not a single--

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

Yes, there was, and that's all I need.

[Shelly Glover, Conservative, Saint Boniface, MB]

You do not run this committee!

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

Calm yourself down.

Mr. Comartin, I'm simply asking, did you vote--

[Shelly Glover, Conservative, Saint Boniface, MB]

If it wasn't for your shenanigans, we'd be absolutely fine.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

I'm asking if Mr. Comartin voted.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

Mr. Holland, before I recessed you had no objection to going public. Now you're saying you don't want to have this meeting in public?

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

Mr. Chair, you have to have a vote, so have a vote.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

We did have a vote.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

I am asking if anybody on this side voted. In order to vote, you have to have a good opportunity for people to vote.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

Let me be clear, Mr. Holland. Are you saying you do not want this meeting to be in public?

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

I am saying have a vote.

[An hon. member]

We had a vote.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

No, we never had a vote. I haven't talked to anybody on this side who thinks there was a vote. There were no hands; we didn't vote.

[An hon. member]

Because you were talking to somebody.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

You weren't even paying attention.

I looked around. There was no objection.

[Candice Bergen, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

It passed.

[Mark Holland, Liberal, Ajax—Pickering, ON]

Because you didn't call the vote.

Go to the minutes. Ask the clerk. Did you call a vote? Did he call the question? There was no calling of the question.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

I did.

Ms. Mourani, please.

Oh, before we go to that, I want to get the approval of the committee to distribute the motion that Mr. Holland made here with all the names for all four days.

Is it okay if I do that? It is not translated, but it is names and it might not be a big issue to not have names translated.

Any objections? Hearing none, we'll distribute this.

Okay. Ms. Mourani, please go ahead.

[Maria Mourani, Bloc, Ahuntsic, QC]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Would it be possible to have Mr. Holland's motion? I think it's going to be distributed. I'd like to comment on it.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

On Mr. Holland's motion, go ahead.

[Maria Mourani, Bloc, Ahuntsic, QC]

I simply wanted to say that, in the table where it mentions a third day, it says "Association de Santé Publique du Québec". The exact words should actually be "Institut national de santé publique du Québec". That's the institute that wants to appear before our committee.

Personally, I find Mr. Holland's proposal very interesting, especially since everyone is represented here. I see that there are as many witnesses from the Conservative Party as from the NDP and the Bloc. I think that it's quite fair. So I'd be pleased to approve this motion.

[The Chair, Conservative, Garry Breitkreuz]

Okay. Next on my list is Mr. MacKenzie.

[Dave MacKenzie, Conservative, Oxford, ON]

Mr. Chair, now that we are in open session, it is certainly an opportunity to let Canadians know what just happened here.

This was a committee that was supposed to meet today to decide on witnesses for Bill C-391, a private member's bill before the House. Before the meeting got very far along, Mr. Holland, for the Liberal Party, made a motion--