Mr. Desnoyers, you're challenging me. Oh, oh!
I never calculated the resources in that way. I can tell you that, currently in the Quebec Region, we have 3,331 inmates—and that may vary from day to day, depending on the number of individuals released and incarcerated—who are actually in institutions, in penitentiaries, and we have approximately 2,100 parolees in all of Quebec. To supervise those 5,000 or so individuals, we have approximately 4,105 employees in Quebec distributed as follows: 1,882 correctional officers—and that can also vary from day to day, but that's an average—203 nurses, 85 psychologists and 102 program officers, parole officers. I've never made that connection, but obviously in the penitentiaries, you have to understand one thing—and I always say this to people who don't know them well—it's like a hotel, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, with food services and all that entails in custody terms, both in the penitentiary and within its perimeter.
The ratio will obviously be a little lower at a community correctional centre, apart from the Martineau CCC for specialized care where there is specialized staff: a health care centre open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. However, there is always surveillance, 24 hours a day, which is provided in all community correctional centres. We have parole officers and program officers at the community correctional centres. When I say "community correctional centres", I'm really talking about everything that is done in the community, under supervision.