Evidence of meeting #41 for Public Safety and National Security in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was i've.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Hutton  Executive Director, John Howard Society of Manitoba
Barrett Fraser  Board Member, John Howard Society of Manitoba
Chris Courchene  Level 1 Carpenter Apprentice, Building Urban Industries for Local Development
Andrea Derbecker  Training Coordinator, Building Urban Industries for Local Development
Kenton Eidse  Employment Consultant and Facilitator, Community Office, Opportunities for Employment
Mumtaz Muhammed  Participant, Community Office, Opportunities for Employment

5:25 p.m.

Board Member, John Howard Society of Manitoba

Barrett Fraser

I can certainly answer that.

Speaking personally, I found myself ideologically having a complete shift in thinking in a relatively short period. I became more proactive in my community, volunteered my time, and travelled across the country to come to Ottawa. I love it here.

I mention this because these are things I never did before. And the reason I started doing them is that I've lived both sides. I've been a victim of crime--and I have an alarm now, ma'am, thank you very much. I've learned to develop empathy, and I understand, through my own personal experiences, both good and bad, that we need to learn.

You are quite right, sir, people are forgiving. They do want to see an ex-offender succeed. They do want to see us achieve as much as we possibly can. I don't believe they want to see this type of legislation that would put up a barrier and restrict any opportunity for them to get their closure, for them to see their wishes come to fruition.

When I was in prison.... I've seen some very, very, interesting restorative resolution situations. I have sat in a room where a man who killed a woman's daughter was sitting face to face with that person. If anything has the potential to go bad, it is that situation, when you have the mother of a murdered child sitting there in front of her killer and they're working it out.

I believe that what you're saying is absolutely true. So when we put in place legislation like this that paints us all with one brush, situations like the one I just spoke of will never ever happen. And that's really it.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Thank you very much, all, for appearing here.

Certainly, speaking on behalf of the committee, it's always good to hear people's stories. From the other side, we hear the stories of victims. We hear the stories of many kinds of offenders, not always who have been rehabilitated, not always when there has been rehabilitation back into society.

We thank you for coming. We thank you for your input on this bill.

We are now adjourned.