I think the most important thing we have to remember is that one of the documents that Rob Sampson was involved with, the road map to corrections--I probably misquoted the name--talks about expanding programs. It talks about expanding the prisoner's workday and giving the prisoners more opportunities.
There's nothing saying that we can't build the houses and do even more, but what we're doing right now is that we're looking at taking away something that adds value to a person's life, to their workday, and gives them a sense of purpose and more hours of work than they'd have inside a normal institution.
Yes, the comment was made that they could come out at minimum wage. I think a lot of the people who come out of the Correctional Service of Canada will come out at minimum wage, because they've just paid a price to society. I actually also grew up on a farm and went from that to being a tradesperson to the president of a union. I guess what I'm saying is that at least the farm is giving them a direct start in life; it's something hands-on, something tangible, and it's a program that can work. But I also agree that the government should support the rest of the documentation, take it farther, and create more programs.