Mr. Sorenson, that's a very good question.
First, maybe real alcohol coming inside will be found more in minimum security. For medium and maximum security, normally they're going to create their own alcohol. I was on a committee in 1999 regarding alcohol—how they do it and why they do it. Research was done in Donnacona, and I'm from there. We were asking in that report why on the outside drinking alcohol at home is not a criminal charge but on the inside it's a discipline report. At that time, a warden in Donnacona would say, “Mallette, Jesus Christ, stop.” I'd say we should try something else. We went to the RCMP in Quebec, and we asked them the question. My warden was a good warden and he said to me, “Do you want to try it? We're going to.” But guess what? We win. We win in court. The guy received eight more months to serve. For us, alcohol on the inside is creating a lot of problems. Four or five guys are drunk in the common room together. Normally, they're going to fight. That's the thing. Yes, we would have to do the same thing if we were outside. There would be criminal charges. For the visitors carrying drugs it would be a criminal charge as well. We have to do it.