Public Safety Committee on June 19th, 2012

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

No, we haven't.

[Vic Toews, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

We see this as an attempt by your party, should they ever be in a position to influence the Parliament so as to bring the gun registry back...you will do that. So we're not going to put this up for you in order to allow you to do that.

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

Do you agree, though, that the ledger never was used to create the gun registry? That was not what was used for the gun registry. Every witness has said so. How come keeping these things would recreate the gun registry?

And to correct the minister, officially, our party never said that we would recreate a gun registry. I don't know where you take that. I can say it right here, right now.

[Vic Toews, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

Well, I've heard it on the news. It has been reported, but I know—

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

Well, Minister, read better.

[Vic Toews, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

I know that media is never accurate—

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

Read better.

[Vic Toews, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

—but I haven't....

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

Anyway—

[Vic Toews, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

It leads me also to believe that it'd be curious—

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

Anyway, answer the question.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Let him answer the question, then, Ms. Boivin.

[Vic Toews, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

It would be curious, given the sanctions you've made against members who have voted against keeping the long-gun registry. The sanctions you placed only indicate one thing to me: that you are in fact.... The reports I have read that you are going to bring back the long-gun registry are very clear.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

All right—

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

Voting against something is one thing, Minister. Voting to get another one started from scratch is another thing. So we won't fabulate there.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Madam—

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

My time is up...?

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Yes, your time is up. Thank you, Madam Boivin.

Now—

[Candice Bergen, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

Can I have one moment of Mr. Aspin's time? Then I'll turn it over to Mr. Aspin.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Okay.

Ms. Hoeppner, please.

[Candice Bergen, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Aspin, for giving me a moment.

I just wanted to clarify the reason that I mentioned communists as being part of the NDP party is that Mathieu Ravignat ran for the...[Inaudible—Editor]...Communist Party—

[Françoise Boivin, NDP, Gatineau, QC]

Point of order; that's not even in order with the meeting—

[Candice Bergen, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

Thank you very much, Mr. Aspin.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Mr. Aspin, please.

[Jay Aspin, Conservative, Nipissing—Timiskaming, ON]

I would just like to say that, on the record, Thomas Mulcair came out and said that he would bring the registry back, so I don't know what we're hearing right now.

At any rate, I'd just like to say that there are a lot of socialists, a lot of free enterprisers, and a lot of communists in northern Ontario, but they're all united on one thing, Mr. Minister. This is the most popular legislation—and I'm speaking about Bill C-19—that probably was ever passed for the residents of northern Ontario, so on behalf of the residents of northern Ontario, thank you very much for leading that legislation.

We know as well that there's a lot of pushback on this. The Ontario premier has not been exactly cooperative. Would it be accurate to say that actions such as these of the CFOs like Mr. Wyatt forced you, really, to act on behalf of law-abiding Canadian gun owners in terms of further regulations introduced?