Evidence of meeting #56 for Public Safety and National Security in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was commission.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Anita Dagenais  Senior Director, RCMP Policy Division, Law Enforcement and Policing Branch, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Agnès Lévesque  Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Bartholomew Chaplin

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Right. I have them numbered differently. Right now, what we're calling government amendment 16 I would consider government amendment 17, because I had already—

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

No, it's 16.

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NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC

The numbering is off for them.

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I am off one number, because I had it in my package.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right.

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Again, this is just to correct wording. “The Commission” in French needs to be capitalized.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

So it's the capitalization of a letter in French.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 37 as amended agreed to)

Folks, I will tell you what we're going to do here. We have clauses 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, and all the way down to and including clause 59. We're going to do these as a package. There are no amendments.

(Clauses 38 to 59 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 60)

We're going to go back to clause 35 when we get it.

On clause 60 there is a government amendment. According to my number, it is government amendment 17.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Sorry. One moment, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

This is another translation or—

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

[Inaudible—Editor] I just want to make sure I'm on my right amendment here.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

I think this is the capitalization again, isn't it?

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Let me just make sure I'm on the right amendment now that—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

It's on clause 60. That's what you have to refer to—the clause and the amendment.

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

We have it here, if you don't mind just giving me one moment.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Yes.

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

We're going to correct a capitalization. The word “Commission” needs to be capitalized.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right, then, again in the French it's the capitalization of one word.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 60 as amended agreed to)

(Clauses 61 to 76 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 77)

We have three amendments, all from the government.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Yes. This is the one I was referring to, G-18.

The first amendment is to correct a grammatical error. Using the feminine word elle to describe any individual is incorrect, and it should be replaced with a neutral un. That's my French lesson.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Government amendment 19.

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Again, we want to correct an inconsistency. The English text makes reference to subsection (3), which is the power to create regulations, whereas the French text makes reference to subsection (4), which is a duty to comply with the regulations. Therefore, the English text needs to be amended to state that it is an offence to fail to comply with subsection (4).

We are making it consistent.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Government amendment 20.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Again, this is correcting a grammatical error. It is using a singular to describe two sections. It should be amended to use the plural form.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 77 as amended agreed to)

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

I think it's easier if we go back. Then we know where we are.

(On clause 35)

Clause 35 is on the government “no name” amendment.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Ryan Leef Conservative Yukon, YT

It's amendment 15A.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

This is a substantive amendment, Mr. Chair. We heard testimony that the commissioner should not be able to refuse to investigate a chair-initiated complaint. We heard that from the current chair. In this bill, the commissioner could refuse, and we agree it's important that it be changed.

We want to address the concerns that were raised by Mr. McPhail and move this amendment to clarify that the commissioner cannot refuse to investigate a chairperson-initiated complaint.

We think the opposition would probably agree with this.