In a hypothetical world where somebody came and said here is x number of dollars to divide as you wish, my answer would be that I was not sure. I'd have to take a step back and look at what I already had and divide it up. I go back to the need for a balanced approach. I think it's a little misleading when we get down into the dollar figures, that is, x number of dollars for this and x number of dollars for that.
Through reinvestment Collins Bay has received some additional resources for program delivery. I think you have to be careful about trying to equate every activity on a dollar value, because we have been able to do some things and produce results without the dollar values always having to be equal. The anecdotal part of that has to do with integrating both sides of the house so that we don't look at the world in silos. We need to blend those silos between interdiction programs, parole officers, and education. I think we're achieving that goal so that all of the moneys are about drug interdiction, versus hiving them off individually.
Some of the other witnesses commented on individuals who may have got into trouble and been removed from a program because they went to segregation. I've had cases at Collins Bay where in the morning we have had an observation report by staff indicating that such and such an offender is decompensating. Spontaneously, without the warden's having to tell the staff what to do, we'll have staff from the program side of the house, the security side of the house, and supervisory staff saying what needs to be done. We may have a program delivery officer who has a rapport with this gentleman and might be able to bring multi-disciplinary resources to bear. That integration is happening at Collins Bay without my having to prescribe it artificially. To me that shows that integration is working.