Public Safety Committee on April 25th, 2018

[Douglas Breithaupt]

Yes.

[Sven Spengemann, Liberal, Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Mr. Motz, are you satisfied with that?

[Glen Motz, Conservative, Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB]

Yes, thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Is there any other debate?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll go to NDP-87

Mr. Dubé.

[Matthew Dubé, NDP, Beloeil—Chambly, QC]

Thank you.

This is, as you've said before, a fallback position. Given that the amendments to repeal the entities listing have been defeated, this amendment seeks to change the period of publication of the results of the review of listed entities. So rather than using the wording “without delay” the wording would be “within five years.” So it is prescribing a time.

This comes from a recommendation out of the Canadian Bar Association.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Mr. Picard.

[Matthew Dubé, NDP, Beloeil—Chambly, QC]

If I may just correct myself, instead of “within five years”, it's “without delay.” I apologize for that.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

That's perfectly understandable.

[Matthew Dubé, NDP, Beloeil—Chambly, QC]

It's late.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

And it's getting later.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

I would like to ask our experts one or two questions.

If an entity remains on the list, it remains there after the review, but if it is removed from the list, does the de-listing take effect at the moment of the decision or when it is published in the Canada Gazette?

[Douglas Breithaupt]

I don't have a firm answer on that, but the Governor in Council would have made the decision to delist.

[John Davies]

We'd have to get back to you on that, but the assumption is to meet as soon as possible after the Governor in Council decision and that decision would be made public. I would have to confirm that. Sorry.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Are you satisfied with that, Mr. Picard?

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

Give me two seconds, please.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Mr. Motz.

[Glen Motz, Conservative, Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB]

If it's agreeable to the committee, can we suspend this until the officials have a chance to confer? We could keep going but suspend this until either somebody else can confirm it or tomorrow morning.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

We still have a vote, though.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

Does this amendment have any impact on any other amendment coming?

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Everything affects everything; that's the problem.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

I know. That's my family story.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Yes.

In normal circumstances I'd suggest Mr. Motz's suggestion makes perfectly good sense. Unfortunately though, if we suspend and don't deal with.... What are we on? LIB-52...?

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

I'll try another question.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Sorry, we're on NDP....

Now I'm confused, but sorry, I can't move without suspending the whole clause.