What I'm not clear about in that case was whether all that was done.... I know that because he was extensively interviewed, he would have encountered what is known as a stage A failure or a red flag in the system. That's what precipitated the interview. However, what I can't determine because of privacy barriers is whether the only other check that was done was a CPIC check and a CFIS check.
For example, I don't know if crown counsel reports were ever reviewed. I know that the Kingston police officer who arrested him for those offences, as I say, was never interviewed. I don't know the extent of the background check and I understand that very often references aren't contacted, and secondly—sorry, I lost my train of thought for a moment—there is a large use of, for example, volunteer personnel sometimes to conduct those reference checks. In this case, I don't know who conducted it. I did try to find out and was unable to do so.