Evidence of meeting #122 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
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Conservative
Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB
I would be okay with the friendly amendment to my amendment.
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NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Matthew Dubé
I can feel the clerk boiling next to me, knowing that friendly amendments aren't actually a thing, but if we can go ahead—
12:25 p.m.
Conservative
Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB
What we're prepared to say, Chair, is we could accept my amendment and then another amendment that wants to add in the language that I've done or we could defeat my amendment and propose the new amendment in its entirety.
I'm fine with either approach if we need to follow proper procedure. I'll leave that to your discretion, Mr. Chair.
12:25 p.m.
NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Matthew Dubé
I think the most efficient way, in keeping with Mr. Picard's commentary, would be to...Mr. Calkins' amendment, if that is the will of the committee, and we could move the wording that's being proposed. A colleague could move the wording being proposed which would change the wording to add “health care providers” as well as “, including the duty to warn,”.
12:25 p.m.
Conservative
Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB
Let's keep the wording “health care professionals”. Health care providers could be somebody.... Let's keep it at that professional tier, if you don't mind.
12:25 p.m.
NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Matthew Dubé
Without wanting to instruct committee members in any way, we'll move to the question on Mr. Calkins' amendment. For that, if someone would be so inclined to propose the wording “, including duty to warn,” without any [Inaudible—Editor] by the Chair, that would be certainly appreciated in order to move ahead with this business.
So, we'll vote on Mr. Calkins' amendment.
12:25 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
Sorry, are we having it before we amend it? I'm confused.
12:25 p.m.
NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Matthew Dubé
We're going to bring in another amendment. In consulting with the clerk, this is the simplest way to get it done.
We'll vote on Mr. Calkins' amendment, please.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
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Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
We're moving an amendment to his amendment to add the words “, including duty to warn,”, correct? Does “health care professionals” need to be added or not?
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NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Matthew Dubé
You can have it [Inaudible—Editor] your amendment that you move now.
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Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I'm going to change the wording “medical professional” which is in there now to “health care professional”.
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NDP
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Liberal
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NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Matthew Dubé
We'll vote on the amendment.
(Amendment as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We'll vote on the motion as amended.
No, sorry, Mr. Calkins. You want a debate.
12:25 p.m.
Conservative
Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB
I'd like to move one more amendment.
I actually would just move an amendment to strike paragraphs a) and d), given the fact that those paragraphs actually were dealt with in the confines of Bill C-71 and debated and discussed. I'm not sure why we would be providing direction on them at this particular point in time if these ideas were to be implemented in the legislation. There were several amendments proposed during the legislative process to address these concerns, which were turned down by this committee. I don't see why the committee would then proceed by making a recommendation to the minister to do something through a regulatory process without having the legal jurisprudence to actually implement it when the legislation wasn't amended appropriately to allow for it.
You would likely have unanimous consent for this motion if paragraphs a) and d) were struck.
12:25 p.m.
NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Matthew Dubé
We will now proceed to the debate on Mr. Calkins' amendment, which asks that paragraphs a) and d) of the motion be withdrawn.
Ms. Damoff, you have the floor.
12:25 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I wouldn't be prepared to remove those two paragraphs.
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NDP
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Conservative
Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC
Ms. Damoff, when you say that you are not ready to withdraw those paragraphs, is that because you are not sure that you can do so, or because you do not want to?
12:25 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
On the first one, we were not able to.... It's in the legislation now with regard to the references in the regulations. It's the better place to deal with it. I want to make sure that they do deal with it. On the fourth one, I think it's something that the government needs to look at and if there are solutions that they can propose, perhaps come forward to us at some time.
It may be something that is either through regulations or legislation. We heard that storage is an issue. No one proposed solutions for what the issues are right now.
I'm not prepared to pull those two paragraphs out of the motion.
