Yes, and sometimes I bristle at the kind of narrative that's out there that this is another example of being soft on crime. My assistant always writes this down, but again, to be tough on crime, you also need to be tough on poverty.
This is a perfect example of how we can make an impact on those living in poverty, a significant impact. That's what we want to do, not just as a government, but as federal politicians. We want to help those who need that help, who don't have that voice. This is the way we can do it.