Many of the men I have interviewed who have been in administrative segregation have told me that they're been presented with opportunities to go to the yard at six o'clock in the morning when it's freezing cold and dark outside, and when they decline, that's it. That's the end of their opportunity to be out of their cell for the day.
So I agree. I think if the opportunity to be out of the cell being presented is unreasonable—and you're going to find that, and I think Mr. Da Silva can probably speak to this more—and you have prisoners who would previously have been isolated being able to associate with each other, you're going to have the question of incompatible prisoners milling about together. Some prisoners will not want to go out there and participate in the general milling about in those structured intervention units. Those would be reasonable grounds for refusing, but, de facto, you're going to end up with people being isolated in their cells and experiencing the suffering that comes from prolonged segregation if they can't exercise a reasonable opportunity to get out of their cells.