I can't speak for the minister. I do know that one of the issues the Parliamentary Budget Officer raised when I asked for the updated costs was that they could not estimate what it would cost for maximum security for women. They're all in these segregated units, which are basically what the structured living environments would be. Their best guess, based on the information they could provide, was about half a million dollars per year, per woman.
When you take into account the number of indigenous women who are in those positions and also combine that with the parts of the bill that will actually make it more difficult for the progressive elements of the current legislation, the CCRA, to be implemented, I think we're likely to see costs greater than that.