This question is probably more to you: What are you defining as “solitary”? You mentioned women's institutes, and we heard from the corrections investigator that there are 10 women in right now. As I mentioned earlier to the civil liberties folks, my sense is that this bill has been written for the men's institutes and not the women's, because you're dealing with very different circumstances in both. You don't have the gangs in women's prisons to the same extent.
You were talking about Stony Mountain. I was there in 2016 and I saw one of the units where they have what I think you referred to as “pod C”. Why do you think those can't work?