All three of you, obviously, would have an understanding of how the PBC and the whole application process works. Obviously, you have read the motion before the committee.
In your opinion, how can we accomplish what has been asked? Not the details, but really what you're saying is that some people can't afford record suspensions and it might impact their ability to move on in life and put this behind them and be able to rejoin society and contribute as they would need to. This is preventing that in some cases. They can't get a good job.
How would we navigate that? You're providing information to us now, saying in an ideal world here's what you would suggest we look at to remedy the issue that has been presented in this motion. Is there anything in both your experiences that would say here's something that would work that we should maybe consider?