I'll start with the first question. As you saw, there are so many statistics out there to say there's a lack of cyber-expertise. As testimony to that, my calendar shows that I have a reduced number of opportunities to teach and train people in it. One reason is that the costs have been going up for a few years, but another is that the people are not committing to do that job. It's a very demanding job. You have to know a lot. You have to know so many operating systems from however long in the past, and also to be able to adapt to the newest, latest and greatest ones that are coming around.
That said, we do have universities with good programs in place to train those people. I just finished doing a microprogram in cybersecurity at the master's level with the University of Sherbrooke. We had 15 people in the class. It was an awesome program, but we had only 15 people. I would have liked to have 115, because those people were really eager. They wanted to enhance their knowledge—they're professionals in the trade—but it was one of the rare occasions they had to do so.
Back in the old days, in 2003, I was with the University of Winnipeg, and that was when the first certificate came out. But the adoption is not present. It's not as forthcoming as in many countries, where they have this in their school systems.