I think this is an evolution we've gone through. Really since 2014, there's been a significant push to build connective tissue between the private sector and the government. Certainly, I think it's immensely valuable. We had a ramp in terms of defence innovation fellows—the U.S. Digital Service and the Defense Digital Service, those two components—that brought people in from the outside. It was tremendously helpful.
I recommend to every country that's dealing with cybersecurity issues to find a way to build connective tissue to allow tech entrepreneurs to work in the government, and likewise to have people from the national government to work in technology, for certain.