From my perspective as a guy who hires folks. I have members of my team who haven't gone to university or college. They had just tremendous interest, and they spent a lot of time in their high school years working on and understanding computers and developing a sense of security. They demonstrate themselves in our interviews and our tests, and we can see they will be a good person to bring onto our team. They'll be strong in the technical sense, but eventually they'll run into a roadblock because they don't have some of the background you'd want for management.
Right now it's hard to find people coming out of college with a cybersecurity degree. I look for someone with a technology degree, and I can train them on security in my security operations centres. I can give them on-the-job training. What is hard and what we look for in a lot of the roles is experience. We're looking for people who have the college degree. They may have a master's in cybersecurity, but then they have field experience, so your military folks, or people who defended large networks. They're few and far between. I've had roles that have taken two years to fill because it's hard to find the person.