I think in the fire service, though, we're definitely on the right path forward. There are certainly some other organizations, like our Department of National Defence, and you'll hear I believe from a witness this afternoon from the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, where they're a little more advanced in some of the programming pieces in respect to R2MR, as an example.
Finding out what's worked in locations, getting those best practice standards, and importing that into our organizational structure and national action plan are going to be key in moving forward.
As I indicated before, there's no magic bullet solution here. You told the story about how one situation affecting one person would not necessarily affect someone else; but given someone else's personal issues or ongoing challenges, another incident that would normally seem insignificant in nature could be absolutely devastating.
Again, I think we need to look at things such as the Department of National Defence, some of the leadership pieces that are there, what has helped them make gains in changing the narrative and stigma, and working from that to make it adaptable to our organizations.