Evidence of meeting #163 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cybersecurity.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Luc Jarry  Senior Advisor Cybersecurity, As an Individual
Tony Gull  President, Tawich Development Corporation
Sam Gull  Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation
Jean Fernand Schiettekatte  Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation
Robert Milot  Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Jim Eglinski Conservative Yellowhead, AB

Thank you.

Mr. Jarry, in your professional experience, do you think we everyday users of the Internet services can protect ourselves adequately? Are there proper programs that we can buy to protect our home security, or is that just a fallacy of someone selling me a product that probably is not going to do the job?

4:30 p.m.

Senior Advisor Cybersecurity, As an Individual

Luc Jarry

Security is about two things, mainly. It's about training and about awareness. I mentioned earlier that many people agree to some confidentiality and haven't read the agreement.

To answer your question, yes, you can definitely improve your security. Now, is it 100% foolproof? I can compare it to driving a car. Putting on your seatbelt and having your ABS brakes and all those security systems enabled will probably prevent your getting hurt, if you get into an accident. But do you still have a chance of having an accident? You still do, yes.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Jim Eglinski Conservative Yellowhead, AB

Security is only as good as the service that is being provided to Canadians, and in parts of Canada we know that the service is terrible, or almost to the point of rotten, whereas in other areas you have a very good service.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Thank you, Mr. Eglinski.

Before I let you go, whose is the money behind Quintillion?

4:30 p.m.

Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

Jean Fernand Schiettekatte

From what we know, because we don't know them, it's a U.S. company that is basically supporting this project.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

So this is U.S. money and a U.S. company—

4:30 p.m.

Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

—and this will be a project to protect us from going through the U.S.

4:30 p.m.

Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

Jean Fernand Schiettekatte

Yes, that's why we say we would like to have a Canadian team, but the Cree, we have some money, but we don't have enough to do it alone.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Would a Canadian entity, whether it's you, somebody else or some combination, own it up through James Bay and Hudson's Bay up to the connection point, or would you own it all the way over to Alaska?

4:30 p.m.

Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

Jean Fernand Schiettekatte

We would like to own it up to Alaska and up to Europe. We would basically like to own phase three.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

What is the significance of being in international waters as opposed to domestic waters? You know there is a dispute over the Northwest Passage. Canada regards it as domestic. Mr. Pompeo regards it as international. What would be the significance of whether it's domestic or international to your project?

4:30 p.m.

Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

Jean Fernand Schiettekatte

It's basically not to be submitted through the PATRIOT Act and all the laws that regulate it. You want to try to be out of the reach of the NSA system. That's a concern that I think Canadians should be aware of. If I talk to the question that was asked of Mr. Jarry about who is doing the spying, it's a very good question.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Finally, is your project subject to Canadian security review?

4:30 p.m.

Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Has that been initiated?

4:30 p.m.

Advisor, Tawich Development Corporation

Jean Fernand Schiettekatte

No, we're still in the study phase. If you look on the Internet, you won't find too much information about what we're doing. Now is the first time we've publicized what we're doing. Yes, we have had some contacts, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Thank you for that.

I'm sorry to interrupt what is a really good and interesting conversation, but with that, we are going to adjourn, and I want to thank you again for your presentation to the committee.

We are suspending, not adjourning, and then we are going in camera. Thank you.

[Proceedings continue in camera]