Okay.
That happened at École Polytechnique Montréal and at Ryerson University. My colleague invited a representative from there, but we don't have a lot of institutions or resources in Canada with the expertise to manage our cybersecurity problems. Resources are limited, even rare. We are concerned that, as good as the expertise may be, it's not enough.
If we compare that to expertise developing elsewhere, especially the quality and scope of outside attacks, how would you compare the level of expertise and training available in Canada to those external threats?
I don't want any publicity or marketing here, but frankly, if we want to improve the situation, we need to know where we're at.