I think there's lots of evidence that demonstrates grassroots, community-based efforts on counter-radicalization are the most effective. One of the challenges is not to design a “we're from Ottawa and we're here to help” program across the country in terms of counter-radicalization, but to build on best practices to share that the vast majority of it is grassroots, led by family members who have gone through the experiences you've just described. I think we're pushing on an open door here.
The challenge is also to recognize that counter-radicalization has limits. You have to do it. It does pay dividends, but it's not going to prevent every threat that we're going to otherwise confront.