Ms. Carvin, I'll give you an opportunity to respond as well, and again, could you speak more broadly to access to information? I would note that in the U.K., access to information can be refused for national security reasons. The minister is required in all cases to provide a refusal, unlike in this act, and there is a ministerial directive that it's expected to be required to be exercised rarely.
I would also note that in the U.S., for the Senate select committee on intelligence and the U.S. House permanent select committee on intelligence, the executive cannot withhold any information from them except temporarily and under extenuating circumstances, such as in relation to highly covert and time-sensitive operations. If you could, please speak to access to information with specific reference to clause 14.