I agree with you, and again, I don't think the world is going to come to an end if your view prevails over mine, but in the case of the Treasury Board, those circumstances where you had those ultra-secret bits of information were relatively rare. It was easy to put into place these very special circumstances.
If this committee does its job properly, it's going to need them rather more frequently. It's going to need to have some measure of archives or something to keep an eye on what they have done and where they're going. I am simply expressing the preference for less rather than more. I do think, though, that generally speaking, with the exception of clauses 14 and, I guess, clause 16, if I had my way, they should get everything else.
I've worked in this area for a couple of decades. Rare were the opportunities, when one of the review bodies really wanted information, that the responsible minister or agency wasn't prepared to make it available. In particular, in this case, when the committee can make a public issue of non-provision, it seems to me that it's a balance.