I just want to say that this is the first time I have heard at this committee, I think, a useful explanation as to why the subpoena powers may not be necessary. All of the other testimony—and we spent a lot of time at this—has suggested that they're important. I am a bit conflicted on this now, but I will say, to Mr. Rankin's point and Ms. Watts' point, that I think it's best we err on the side of caution to say that we should empower this committee as much as possible, and so I will be voting for the amendment.
I don't know that it's the right language. It may be reversed at report stage, but take this vote as direction to go back and see whether you can find a way to empower this committee to tackle the concerns that Ms. Watts and Mr. Rankin have mentioned.
Whether a subpoena power is drafted the way this amendment is drafted or some other way, I think it is important that we empower the committee to access individuals—obviously, proposed subsection 15(3) gives access to records—in a more serious way.
That's all I'll say. I will support the amendment.