I think one thing is that you have to go to them. I don't want to call it marketing, but you have to go and recruit the best people possible. The process is outrageously long. When I entered as a correctional officer, I then had to go for three months and not get paid, so you have to be very young or very committed. The process prevents a lot of people from entering, and a big entry into at least the institutions, the prisons, is from the correctional officer side of things.
The other thing is the security clearance. They upped the level of the security clearance nationally a couple of years ago, I think, and the problem is like this: if you're 32 and you did something a bit stupid at 19, you won't get hired.
Should that be something that excludes them? Some indigenous individuals would be great for working around, but they grew up in dysfunctional environments and made some mistakes. Now they're 28 or 30, but because they had a criminal record or something happened, they are excluded.