Evidence of meeting #1 for Public Safety and National Security in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
9:10 a.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I move:
That, unless otherwise ordered, each committee member be allowed to have one staff member at an in camera meeting and that one additional person from each House officer's office be allowed to be present
9:10 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there debate? Seeing none, we'll vote on the motion.
(Motion agreed to)
The next item pertains to transcripts of in camera meetings.
Ms. Khera.
9:10 a.m.
Liberal
Kamal Khera Liberal Brampton West, ON
I move:
That one copy of the transcript of each in camera meeting be kept in the committee clerk's office for consultation by members of the committee or by their staff.
9:10 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there debate? Seeing none, we'll vote on the motion.
(Motion agreed to)
The next one is on notice of motions.
Mr. Lightbound.
February 20th, 2020 / 9:10 a.m.
Liberal
Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC
Yes, Mr. Chair, I'm jumping in. I move:
That a 48 hours notice, interpreted as two nights, shall be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the committee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration, provided that (a) the notice be filed with the clerk of the committee no later than 4 p.m. from Monday to Friday; that (b) the motion be distributed to members in both official languages by the clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; and that (c) notices received after the deadline hour or on non-business days be deemed to have been received during the next business day and that when the committee is travelling on official business, no substantive motions may be moved.
9:10 a.m.
Conservative
Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC
Mr. Chair, I have a question.
At certain times, we've agreed to proceed more quickly. Could there be an additional point stating that, with the agreement of the chair and vice-chairs, we can proceed more quickly? Would that be helpful?
9:15 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Does anyone want to debate that?
Essentially he wants to shrink it to 24 hours on the agreement of the chair and all the vice-chairs.
9:15 a.m.
Conservative
9:15 a.m.
Liberal
Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC
I have a question for the chair. With the unanimous consent of the committee, can we proceed more quickly if necessary?
9:15 a.m.
Conservative
Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC
Aside from cases where an emergency meeting is requested, sometimes we want to proceed more quickly. Could the chair and vice-chairs have the authority to speed up the tabling of a motion? Obviously, if we ask for the consent of all committee members, the process will take longer.
9:15 a.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I'm not keen on that. I think we can do it by unanimous consent at the beginning of the meeting. I don't see where that would be helpful. It also excludes one of the parties, if it's just the two vice-chairs and the chair. That means the New Democratic Party would be excluded from the decision; whereas, if we do it by unanimous consent of the committee.... Generally, this committee has been pretty agreeable so if there was agreement by all parties, I don't think anybody would be trying to hold it up.
9:15 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Okay. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Is there any other debate?
(Motion agreed to)
The next one is on independent members and clause by clause.
This is the substantive one. Who wishes to move this one?
Marc.
9:15 a.m.
Conservative
9:15 a.m.
Conservative
Marc Dalton Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC
Okay.
With respect to independent members and clause by clause, I move:
That, in relation to Orders of Reference from the House respecting Bills,
(a) the clerk of the committee shall, upon the committee receiving such an Order of Reference, write to each member who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee to invite those members to file with the clerk of the committee, in both official languages, any amendments to the Bill, which is the subject of the said Order, which they would suggest that the committee consider;
(b) suggested amendments filed, pursuant to paragraph (a), at least 48 hours prior to the start of clause-by-clause consideration of the bill to which the amendments relate shall be deemed to be proposed during the said consideration, provided that the committee may, by motion, vary this deadline in respect of a given bill;
(c) during the clause-by-clause consideration of a Bill, the Chair shall allow a Member who filed suggested amendments, pursuant to paragraph (a), an opportunity to make brief representations in support of them.
9:15 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Is there any debate? Seeing none, we will vote on the motion as read.
(Motion agreed to)
That disposes of our routine motions.
Generally at this point I would say, see you on Tuesday, but I hate to waste committee time. I would like to have an opportunity to have the committee instruct the clerk as to what our agenda items will be in the next few weeks so that on Tuesday morning we can hit the ground running.
With that in mind, we can continue this meeting. I can continue the meeting as is with the full committee without any problems, but to be honest with you, my preferred methodology is to go to a subcommittee, because it gets to be, frankly, too many chefs in the room.
Why don't we talk for 15 minutes about what the various parties' agendas might be, and then we can start shaping instructions to the clerk. Then we will break and go to the subcommittee and finalize them.
Does that work?
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
Mr. Chair, I have a motion that I wanted to present to folks. Others may as well.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
Do you want to go first Gagan? No? Okay.
As many of you know, the correctional investigator tabled his report in the House on Tuesday. I don't know if any of you have had the opportunity to read it yet, but prominent in there was the report that the public safety committee did in the last Parliament about indigenous people in corrections. I was quite proud to see our work reflected, that somebody actually read it and was taking it seriously.
I have a motion that would ask that the correctional investigator appear before the committee to brief us on his report. Obviously, there's no urgency to that, but I would like to get it on the table.
Has the motion been distributed?
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
It reads:
That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee receive a briefing from Dr. Ivan Zinger, Correctional lnvestigator, on the Report of the Correctional lnvestigator for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2019, which was presented to the House of Commons on Tuesday, February 18, 2020.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal John McKay
Are there other motions? We could talk about them together or do you want to talk about them one by one? I'm open to your guidance.
Let's put everything on the table, and then we can go from there.
Gagan.
9:20 a.m.
Liberal
Gagan Sikand Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON
Something near and dear to my heart is keeping young kids safe and making sure they follow the right path.
I represent a riding in the GTA, and every time you turn on the TV, it seems that there has been a shooting or a stabbing. I grew up in my riding and it never used to be the case. Having said that, I want to put forward this motion: “That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee initiate a study of programs that address the causes of youth gang involvement, while preventing recruitment and retention, as well as those programs that have successfully provided existing members with the opportunity to confront their challenges and create a better future for themselves and their communities.”
I do think that has some urgency, especially given—