Evidence of meeting #1 for Public Safety and National Security in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean-Marie David

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Gagan Sikand Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

I don't know if Pam wants to speak to that, but I was going to put a motion forward that we end debate and just vote on the motion that Pam put forward.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Damien.

I probably have just overruled you, Gagan, but that's all right. You'll get over it.

Go ahead, Damien.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Since that motion was overruled, I would just ask if I could hear Pam's motion again. I don't have the text of it, because of the short notice of this meeting and whatnot. If committee members could hear the specifics of that, certainly that would help.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Pam, do you want to do that again?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Sure. Maybe the clerk could help with wording that's subject to the Standing Orders. I know that at the status of women committee last year, the Conservatives brought forward a motion, even though we had a work plan based on studies, and we voted on it right away.

My suggestion was that perhaps, Chair, we just do it by unanimous consent that all parties submit their motions for potential studies to the clerk by October 16. If the clerk has better wording that would not supersede anything in the Standing Orders, that's fine.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Let me just clarify with the clerk before we ask for a vote.

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

I believe the wording is fine.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

There's nothing to stop anybody from bringing a 48-hour motion.

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

Absolutely not, because there's already a routine motion adopted by the committee giving the right to do so.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Yes, exactly, including firing the chair, which is probably a good idea....

All right. Is there any other discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

Okay, thank you, folks. We do have three minutes left.

You're going to feed the clerk what you're interested in discussing. Our next meeting of the full committee would be whenever we can arrange it, which, given the present circumstances, is a bit of a challenge. I would also much prefer—this is a personal prejudice—for the witness lists, the timelines and all the rest of the stuff to be done in the subcommittee, because discussions among 12 people tend to be very time-consuming.

Nevertheless, having said all that, I thank you all.

Mr. Motz, you have one minute left.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

I just wanted to speak to your point of when the next meeting will be. Someone said earlier in this particular meeting that the date of our meeting specifically will be determined in the coming days, so that might play a role in when our next meetings will be, not inclusive of the subcommittee, which you guys will have on your own.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

My interpretation would be, a full committee meeting first, and a subcommittee meeting following that, so we can put some flesh on the bones and get down to our studies.

I see that our time has expired. It has been a very useful and helpful discussion. The clerk has a lot of useful information from which we can proceed and hopefully be a little more organized.

With that, I am virtually gavelling this meeting to an end.