The real problem is that the women are not confident that it can be done, because there have been 15 reports before, and every time the RCMP said they accepted the recommendations. They did make some changes, but they were mostly policy changes and organizational changes while what the women want, of course, is the men to be accountable for what they're doing and the managers—their supervisors—who are not supervising to be sanctioned also.
It can be done if there is real leadership. It can't be done by a single person. I think a lot of the women would be willing to support strongly the commissioner if they saw her take really drastic action, and I think some of the men who have been hiding would come out and play their role in putting together a team. You shouldn't have the RCMP divided into women policemen and men policemen—it should be one single team.
It's wrong, I think, to continuously say this is the woman corporal or the woman supervisor. Why would we say that? Because we're making a distinction, and the women feel that they're being undermined by that.