What I say is that it's very difficult, because there are still in the administration a lot of people who are for the status quo and who don't believe much in the new approach. They're going to be a stumbling block. But there are some who want reform, and of course the women want reform. If you can bring all of those forces together and have strong leadership over a few years, a lot can be done. The reason I came to a conclusion like that was that if it failed 15 times, it's hard to believe it's going to work on the 16th time. Of course you don't have the same people there to run the show, and that can make a big difference.
On December 2nd, 2020. See this statement in context.