John, can I just speak to that? We have missed so many meetings because of votes, on both Mondays and Wednesdays. I think our committee is a bit unique in this. I'm sure there are other committees that meet on Monday and Wednesday afternoons, but certainly we've been hit with having to miss numerous meetings. If for some reason the clerk and you are unable to get the ministers this week, I would be in favour of going ahead with the meeting on Wednesday afternoon, from 3:30 to 5:30.
To Jack's point, their caucus is over at 2:30, I think he said. That would still give an hour between that and a 3:30 meeting. I would be in favour of doing one if we couldn't get the ministers. If we can get the ministers, then obviously that's a priority.
Our witnesses were prepared to present on Levesque today, so they're ready to go.