It's not something that the committee examined directly, Mr. Fisher. I think it's fair to say that listing a group is exposing a group. It is making more information available to the Canadian people about some of the activities that these groups pursue and what's at risk, which is what we've tried to capture in this report based on the classified information we've received on this front. It's not just one government that has listed. There have been other governments that have listed, and it's an important tool.
The proliferation of these groups is what I think also surprised us. It's the quantum leap in numbers that really had us as a committee, together. We have a member of this NSICOP committee on the public safety committee—Mr. Motz—who will recall that we all sort of shook our heads and thought at first that it was a misprint. This rapid increase in IMVE is of significant concern.