In the SIU, we know that there is still the reality that the mixture between inmates can't happen. They can't belong in the general population and there are reasons that they can't associate with one another. There's a lot of analysis done to make sure that inmates who are recreating with one another can do so. The operational reality is that it's hard to make the movement and the types of routines that are needed in the SIU—and I say “needed”—happen in the run of a day.
Back in November, we did a survey of our membership to find exactly what the problems were. Staffing was an issue. We needed more staffing. Infrastructure was an issue. In order to make the recreation happen between different populations, for example, we needed different yards, more yards.
The operational reality in terms of COVID has been that things have slowed down quite substantially, as they have across Canada. For example, it's very difficult to have meaningful contact with chaplains who aren't coming into the institution.