Public Safety Committee on May 9th, 2024

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

Thank you, Mr. McKinnon. We do have resources until 10:30.

[Doug Shipley, Conservative, Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON]

Chair, I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

Go ahead, Mr. Shipley, on a point of order.

[Doug Shipley, Conservative, Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON]

I would just like to ask the committee if this motion could be adopted by unanimous consent. Then we can move on.

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

Is it a no?

Hold on, Mr. Genuis.

Mr. McKinnon, do you want to be clear on what you're asking? Are you asking to vote on this motion?

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

Yes. I would like to vote on this motion before we adjourn.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have the floor and I'm going to continue, but Mr. Shipley has proposed that this motion be adopted by unanimous consent.

[Kristina Michaud, Bloc, Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

You have been told no four times now.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Okay. Then I will continue either way. I want the motion adopted. If the motion is not going to be adopted, I'm going to continue.

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

I'm confused now. I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

Go ahead, Mr. McKinnon.

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

It's clear that Mr. Genuis does not want this motion to be addressed by the committee. If he did, he would accept a vote at this time.

We've all heard his hour and a half of points of irrelevance. There is no merit to any of his arguments, obviously, or else he would let us vote on this matter. I encourage Mr. Genuis to have the courage of his motion and let us vote on it.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you—

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

I'll ask the committee one more time: Are you willing to vote on this motion at this time?

[Some hon. members]

Yes.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have the floor.

There was was a request from Mr. Shipley for unanimous consent to adopt the motion. Does the committee agree that the motion be adopted?

[An hon. member]

No.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Okay. Then I'm going to keep talking.

[Taleeb Noormohamed, Liberal, Vancouver Granville, BC]

I have a point of order.

Mr. Chair, you asked if the committee is prepared to vote on this. I believe that there are a number of us who nodded in the affirmative—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

We're not. Mr. Genuis has the floor.

[Taleeb Noormohamed, Liberal, Vancouver Granville, BC]

—and you don't need unanimous consent to call the vote, so let's vote.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Yes, you do.

Just on a point of order, and with no disrespect to Mr. Noormohamed, not all of us are experts on everything, and that's fine. I would just commend to him reading the specific sections of the Standing Orders that have to do with committees. The chair cannot call a vote just because he wants to or just because one member has had enough of the debate.

[Taleeb Noormohamed, Liberal, Vancouver Granville, BC]

Mr. Chair—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

The chair knows this very well.

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

Mr. Genuis, there was a request for votes. I asked everybody, and you said no, so we're going to continue.