Evidence of meeting #115 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
Okay, whatever, but procedurally they would never let us get away with reading into the record one thing and submitting something else.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I accept that.
Mr. Caputo, we'll take the points you just made as a subamendment. The debate now is on the subamendment.
Is there any debate on the subamendment?
Conservative
Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I don't believe I moved a subamendment. What I was doing was clarifying the amendment because I neglected to read something in.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I think Ms. O'Connell's point is valid in that what was read into the record was not what was distributed. The amendment you read into the record was not what you just said. I'm certainly happy to consider what you just said to be a subamendment to your amendment.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I suppose we could ask for unanimous consent.
Do we have unanimous consent to accept Mr. Caputo's subamendment?
Conservative
Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC
I would challenge the chair's ruling on that then.
Conservative
Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC
The challenge is as to what the substance of the amendment is—whether what was sent to the chair is ultimately the amendment to the motion.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Okay. Shall the decision of the chair to regard the latter remarks of Mr. Caputo as a proposal for a subamendment be sustained? If you vote yes, you sustain the decision of the chair that it is, in fact, a subamendment. If you vote no, you override the chair.
Madam Clerk, perhaps you could take the roll.
(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 6; nays 5)
Thank you. The decision of the chair is sustained. Your remarks will be taken as a subamendment.
The debate now is on the subamendment.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
On a point of order, Chair, would it not make procedural sense...? What the clerk has is the substance of the amendments to the motion. Would it not make sense for that to be read in now and be accepted as the amendment to the Liberals' motion? Would that not be a reasonable point to take now?
The clerk has it. We've all received it. Rather than debating a subamendment to an amendment, what's available to all the committee should be considered to be the amendment.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
Those are interesting arguments; however, the decision—and it's supported by the committee—is that it is a subamendment.
We are on the subamendment. If there is no debate on the subamendment, then we'll take a vote on the subamendment. Is there any further debate on the subamendment?
I'll call a vote.
(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
The amendment as amended is what Mr. Caputo has distributed.
The debate continues on the amendment as amended. Is there any further debate on the amendment?
Seeing none, I shall call the vote.
(Amendment as amended agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We now go back to the original motion as amended. Is there any further debate on the motion as amended?
Seeing none, could we have a recorded division, please?
(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal