Evidence of meeting #135 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Iqwinder Gaheer
Mr. Lloyd, I can't tell you what to do with that, but maybe you could speak to me after about the rules. I just read the rules very recently. Maybe we should move on to the substance of the motion itself.
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Thank you Mr. Chair. I do appreciate that. I believe this is part of the substance of the motion because we dealt with it, but I'll dispose of this very quickly.
Unless a time limit has been adopted by the committee or by the House—
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Iqwinder Gaheer
Mr. Lloyd, wait one second. We're speaking about the substance of the motion to invite witnesses. Is this related to that?
Liberal
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
My point of order is about relevance. You've already ruled on this, so he can't speak to it. He needs to speak to the motion, which is on inviting witnesses.
Conservative
Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB
Mr. Chair, we're debating his motion. You said that we can debate the motion now.
Liberal
Conservative
Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB
Oh, you mean Ms. O'Connell's motion. I see. There are so many motions flying around.
Okay, so we're back to the Liberal motion.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Iqwinder Gaheer
Mr. Lloyd, please be judicious with your language. We're back to the motion.
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I will say that it is my experience in this committee that members are given a wide latitude to get to the point. I can assure you that I'm going to be very brief with the point I'm about to make, and we can continue on with doing this debate.
Standing Order 116 says—
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
I have a point of order on relevance, Mr. Chair.
It's interesting that the Conservatives don't want to speak about inviting Michelle Rempel Garner and two witnesses who had a debrief.
Conservative
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
My point of order is on relevance. If he can't speak to the main motion, he should allow us to vote on it.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Iqwinder Gaheer
Thank you, Ms. O'Connell.
I've also made the same point to Mr. Lloyd.
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Thank you.
So, Standing Order 116(2)(a) reads:
Unless a time limit has been adopted by the committee or by the House, the Chair of a standing, special or legislative committee—
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
I have a point of order.
Mr. Chair, he's directly violating your ruling. He made a big fuss about his privilege to speak on the motion, and now he's not speaking on the motion. He made this fuss to be able to debate the motion, and he's refusing to debate the motion.
I'd ask for relevance. If he can't get to it, then we should move to the next speaker.
Conservative
Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.
I'm not clear on which standing order Mr. Lloyd is violating. Perhaps Ms. O'Connell can—
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
It's with regard to relevance. You have to speak to the motion.
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
I haven't even been given a chance to speak to the motion. I keep getting cut off.