Evidence of meeting #30 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Wassim Bouanani

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chair.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Okay. Can we now put the question to members of the committee? That is Ms. Damoff's amendment as amended as articulated just now by the clerk.

Go ahead, Clerk.

(Amendment as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Colleagues, I have some committee business that needs to be dealt with now—

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

We still have to vote on the main motion itself, Mr. Chair.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Yes. We need to vote on main motion, of course.

Clerk, can you do the roll call on the main motion? Please read the main motion first.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

Mr. Chair, the main motion, as we just passed the subamendment, is essentially identical. I wonder if we can just forestall that and go to the vote.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Is there agreement that we just go to the vote?

Ms. Dancho.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

We can proceed shortly. I just want to make it clear that the Conservative members find it to be very important that a member from the Prime Minister's Office come and answer to the testimony provided to—

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

On a point of order, Chair, are we not in the middle of a vote?

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

We are not voting, Ms. Damoff. We are free to discuss. I can bring forward a subamendment if I like, which I'm not doing.

Mr. Chair, I just want it to be clear that we believe it is very important to the testimony that an official from the Prime Minister's Office come and answer to the official legal testimony at the Mass Casualty Commission. The Liberal members led the way in ensuring that did not happen today. They also led the way in ensuring that this meeting does not happen for another month.

For those reasons, we could not support this amended motion.

1:10 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I have a point of order.

With respect to Ms. Dancho, the date was selected through Mr. Lloyd's subamendment. I just think we need to be clear on that. The subamendment, which he offered as a compromise, and a very good compromise, did come from the Conservative side.

I think that needs to be on the record.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

On that point of order, Mr. Chair, I think we were trying to have this meeting as soon as possible. Mr. Lloyd made a good-faith effort to try to get it to be as soon as possible. Our objective was to have it within the next week.

Just to the point, we were trying our best to get to this as quickly as possible. I appreciate Mr. Lloyd's work to ensure that this happens by the 25th. Of course, our initial motion was to have this next week, just to be clear.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Can we now get to the main motion, or do colleagues have something else to say before we do?

Seeing no hands, Clerk, would you please administer the vote on the main motion and read the main motion?

1:10 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, do you want me to read the main motion?

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Yes, please, unless members are content that they understand the main motion—there has already been a vote on it—and that we can now proceed to a vote on the main motion.

Is it agreed that we can do that?

1:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:10 p.m.

The Clerk

There seems to be agreement, Mr. Chair.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Let's move right to the main motion.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Go ahead, Mr. Lloyd.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I appreciate that you said we do have some committee business, but the clock is currently at 1:15 p.m. I move that we adjourn the meeting.

1:15 p.m.

The Clerk

If I may, the bells are ringing, so we need unanimous consent to continue to sit before proceeding to other business.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Do we have unanimous consent to continue to sit?

We do not.

Clerk, what's the next move?

1:15 p.m.

The Clerk

Just one moment, please, Mr. Chair.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

Mr. Chair, we do have a motion to adjourn on the floor. It's dilatory. I think we should deal with that first.

I don't know what the process is, but the lights are going.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Clerk, where do you take us from here?

1:15 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, because of the bells, we need to have unanimous consent before undertaking any other business. Without unanimous consent, we cannot move on to other business.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

I called for unanimous consent and I didn't get it.