Five billion dollars could go a long way on programs that are multi-faceted across many spectrums. We can tighten our borders. We can deal with the revolving justice system, whereby criminals continue to commit offences over and over again while they're out on bail. We could get programs like yours and other similar ones across the country that actually can get some funding and get some results.
I guess one of my concerns as I look at this bill and as I listen to the feedback of millions of Canadians like myself is that we don't see any positive outcome being proposed that will play out and have an actual impact on public safety. It really will not. The targeting of licensed firearms owners who are lawfully vetted and who do not pose a threat.... As a PAL and RPAL owner, I am three to five times less likely to commit an offence than anybody else in this room. It's not criminals; it's the average Canadian. To target those people, Mr. Wilson, it seems to me that we are misguided in our approach. You've said it. I've heard from gang members myself, as I'm sure Mr. Chiang has, that they don't follow the rules. They already don't follow the law.
More laws on top of existing laws that already aren't being followed are not going to keep us safer. What do you say to something like that? Besides your program and programs like it, how do we have a positive impact on public safety that we can all go in the same direction on? Right now, we're not.