I can try to play quarterback here.
I think the challenge here with ghost guns is that you would see offences recorded, charges laid or prosecutions entered under manufacturing, under illegal trafficking. We can't disaggregate the data that we have currently through Statistics Canada to be able to say of those charges, of those offences, how many involved ghost guns.
In your committee's study previously, Mr. Dakalbab talked about a lot of anecdotal evidence in terms of police seizures of ghost guns, but I think it's very difficult to be able to give you the kind of data you're looking for.