Evidence of meeting #69 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was complaints.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brian Sauvé  President, National Police Federation
Heather Campbell  Calgary Police Commissioner, As an Individual
Mark Weber  National President, Customs and Immigration Union
Mel Cappe  Professor, School of Public Policy & Governance, University of Toronto, As an Individual
Perla Abou-Jaoudé  Lawyer, Quebec Immigration Lawyers Association
Vincent Desbiens  Lawyer, Quebec Immigration Lawyers Association

10:50 a.m.

Lawyer, Quebec Immigration Lawyers Association

Vincent Desbiens

Yes, the commission should definitely have people with experience in organizations that work with refugee claimants and other vulnerable populations. Lawyers in the field who regularly represent this clientele could also be considered. I think it's essential to understand the reality these people face, what they've experienced. For that reason, the commission needs to have people who understand that reality and have personal experience working with these complainants.

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Mr. Cappe, I'm going to ask you the same question. What type of person should we look for to do the work required of this new commission?

10:50 a.m.

Professor, School of Public Policy & Governance, University of Toronto, As an Individual

Prof. Mel Cappe

I don't have a straightforward answer for you.

I should tell you that I ended my report to the government on this issue by underscoring the importance of the quality of the people they appoint. I don't have a model in mind, but I would say that an indolent, too-relaxed chairman would not be helpful. It could be somebody who takes this seriously or perhaps has a background in law or law enforcement, but not necessarily. A member of the public could do this very well. In any case, I think the quality of the people is hugely important.

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Thank you.

10:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you, Mr. Julian.

Thank you to our witnesses. That wraps up our meeting for the day. We appreciate your time and your expertise. We're looking forward to your briefs, hopefully within the next week, as a matter of practicality.

Thank you, all.

We are now adjourned.