I guess there's a bigger picture here that we need to look at.
There's a view on the other side that this is a filibuster process. I think the government has some legislation that they are pretty anxious to get through this committee. We came here with hat in hand, with great intentions of saying, “You know what, let's have a few meetings.” We started with five. We can settle on two plus the minister when he comes, as per Mr. Julian's anticipated motion. I think that's reasonable. If we don't, I will tell you that I think there is a very strong probability that the government getting its legislation through in a timely way may not happen, and that's unfortunate.
There's some important legislation that needs to get through. We've been working on this for a while, and there are other ones coming up that are important, but this is something that we feel.... We've been asked by Canadians to take a stand on this. We will, and we are. It's absolutely critical that the government representatives here at this committee understand that we're willing to work with them to pass government legislation, but to do so, we also require some concessions on things that have come to our attention from the Canadian people on matters that are important to them.
Hearing from victims and victims' groups is one of those issues, as well as the impact this has on the justice system and on what Canadians think of the justice system. We have an opportunity to meet and have Canadians be heard. I guess the ball is in the government's court. If they want legislation passed in a timely way, then let's—